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NeonC wrote:
Ah ok, thanks for always answering my questions! One last one, I really want to get the Neon card (my name!) but won't be able to get it in the quest likely, what will be the best method to get one confused  ?

EDIT: Oh I see it is a rare 6* I guess not a good chance at all.

Neon goes to the top rank 100. You will need to have about 300-800 pots depending on how much time you can play.


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how many levels do ppl level their 4* for feeding?

people like them at level 10, 40 & 80.

at level 10 you could get 1-2te for a set
at level 40 you could get 3-4te for a set
at level 80 you could get 1-3te per card

if you are looking at it for yourself, go to the encyclopedia section of the forum to see what amount of exp you can expect from each level.
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I have picked up some Soul Stones during the current Tower Event but do not see them in my inventory.  Is this normal?
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DellerDeller wrote:
I have picked up some Soul Stones during the current Tower Event but do not see them in my inventory.  Is this normal?

yes its normal. If you want to see how many you have you can use leanas shop.
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How fast/hard does Neolith hit? I have to fight her soon and want to know how many time I might have to fight her Sad
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is it hard to recruit monsters? especially 5*? (if Pale will be recruitable)
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NeonC wrote:
How fast/hard does Neolith hit? I have to fight her soon and want to know how many time I might have to fight her Sad

 She 1hits you and than its over. To bring her down it tooked 1 MLB Frejya 2 mlb Morticias and my mlb Magnus as lead. But i dont know if it was thight or not.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ -- Got Questions? Ask Here!   FAQ -- Got Questions? Ask Here! - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:00 am

Help!! What happened to my crimson tower!?!? Ever since the recent maintenance where the demon tower was added, the crimson tower disappeared. So many time, night stones and pots invested in it and now it's gone. Is this a bug? It didn't automatically disappeared. It was there at first but disappears every time the door to the shadow realms open. Now it permanently disappeared after clearing a few floors in tower of chains.

EDIT: welp, It seems I just didn't noticed that the door to the shadow realm opened so it's back though it still disappears.
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ForLulzz wrote:
Help!! What happened to my crimson tower!?!? Ever since the recent maintenance where the demon tower was added, the crimson tower disappeared. So many time, night stones and pots invested in it and now it's gone. Is this a bug? It didn't automatically disappeared. It was there at first but disappears every time the door to the shadow realms open. Now it permanently disappeared after clearing a few floors in tower of chains.

EDIT: welp, It seems I just didn't noticed that the door to the shadow realm opened so it's back though it still disappears.

Well, from my understanding, when the doors to the shadow realm are NOT opened, you can choose to go through the Crimson Tower or the Demon Tower. In your case, I'm assuming whenever you get the pop-up "The doors to the shadow realm have opened", it will automatically open up the Demon Tower, rather than the Crimson Tower, which is seems about right considering it's the one most people will be pouring their points into right now (and it's the new tower).
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^ Okay, actually that hypothesis is wrong. When the doors opened for me, it opened to the Crimson Tower. lol
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question, i have been looking through th encyclopdia and im confused at all the data (with no actual conclusion)

so, are lv 4 2*/3* feeders better than 10* ones? is it more efficient?

from what i understand, lv4 feeds are more cost efficient, but lv 10 are more exp efficient? is my understanding correct?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ -- Got Questions? Ask Here!   FAQ -- Got Questions? Ask Here! - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeWed Jul 24, 2013 12:20 am

It is hard to define the word efficiency in term of enhancing. In term of exp efficiency, you will have to look at the total exp the cards give as feeder vs the exp the leveled card gives as a feeder.

For instance, 1* lvl 1 gives 150 exp and 2* lvl 1 gives 450 exp. A 2* lvl 4 gives 900 exp, and to make it you will need to feed 3 x 1* lvl to a 2* lvl 1. So in term of exp trade off, they are even. On the other hands, it takes 16 x 1* lvl 1 to get a 2* lvl 1 to lvl 10, and a 2* lvl 10 only gives 1800 exp. So compared to the total exp for the original 17 cards, you are actually losing 1050 exp.

So, in a sense, a 2* lvl 4 is better than a 2* lvl 10. However, there are also a couple other things to consider:
1. Cost of enhancing is related to the level of the unit you are feeding your feeders to
2. You can only hold 75 cards at most (i.e. 74 feeders max)

In other words, if you are feeding those 1*s individually, you will have to spend a lot extra luna on enhancing because you will have to feed the feeder to a leveled card multiple time instead of feeding them once only to a lvl 1 card.

It probably sound confusing... Maybe someone will have a better explanation.
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Ryosuke wrote:
It is hard to define the word efficiency in term of enhancing. In term of exp efficiency, you will have to look at the total exp the cards give as feeder vs the exp the leveled card gives as a feeder.

For instance, 1* lvl 1 gives 150 exp and 2* lvl 1 gives 450 exp. A 2* lvl 4 gives 900 exp, and to make it you will need to feed 3 x 1* lvl to a 2* lvl 1. So in term of exp trade off, they are even. On the other hands, it takes 16 x 1* lvl 1 to get a 2* lvl 1 to lvl 10, and a 2* lvl 10 only gives 1800 exp. So compared to the total exp for the original 17 cards, you are actually losing 1050 exp.

So, in a sense, a 2* lvl 4 is better than a 2* lvl 10. However, there are also a couple other things to consider:
1. Cost of enhancing is related to the level of the unit you are feeding your feeders to
2. You can only hold 75 cards at most (i.e. 74 feeders max)

In other words, if you are feeding those 1*s individually, you will have to spend a lot extra luna on enhancing because you will have to feed the feeder to a leveled card multiple time instead of feeding them once only to a lvl 1 card.

It probably sound confusing... Maybe someone will have a better explanation.

no worries, i do understand the general idea of feeding to a unit with more stars than using up all your luna to feed all those 1*s to your lv80 6* for instance.

was just thinking if i should stick w/ lv4 or lv10

for added context, im waiting for boost enhancement in monster recruitment event. so im banking all 2*/3* im getting from training. the prob is i dont have 1* feeders (since all i get are 2* at higher levels)

so im planning to use 38-7 to level up all those 2*s to either lv 4 or lv10 and bank as many of them in my inbox til event finishes.

i was thinking if that was more efficient vs say i just kept grinding 38-7 using my new alt(yay!) or my felicita (which i plan to max both btw)

not to mention i still have to level up pale to a decent level to be able to recruit her.

what would you do in my place? XD
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in addition to the above, you just need about 2(or 3?) 38-7 battles to level 2 2*/3* to lv4 (330 exp ea). compared to 9 battles to get them both to lv10.
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Normally, I make them lvl 6 (takes 6 x f1*) or lvl 10 (takes 16 x f1*) if I have excess amount of 1*s; otherwise, I just make them lvl 4 (using 3 x f1*). When I have too many 2*s, sometimes I feed the same 2* + a f1* to the 2* and it will make it lvl 5. So, for me it really depends on my 1*/2* distribution at a given time.

Also, just tested 38-7, and it seem like it will get a f2* to lvl 4 (84%). So, if you do what you said, you will get about 2.5x more exp with your method than leveling the unit directly. I guess it is not a big deal if you have gotten enough 2* from this event.

btw, don't forget your brave points. You can use those 1*/2* you get as feeders also.

Edit: I guess you can try out different combination for 38-7 like you said. Like 2 unit 3 times or 3 units 4 times, etc.
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Ryosuke wrote:
Normally, I make them lvl 6 (takes 6 x f1*) or lvl 10 (takes 16 x f1*) if I have excess amount of 1*s; otherwise, I just make them lvl 4 (using 3 x f1*). When I have too many 2*s, sometimes I feed the same 2* + a f1* to the 2* and it will make it lvl 5. So, for me it really depends on my 1*/2* distribution at a given time.

Also, just tested 38-7, and it seem like it will get a f2* to lvl 4 (84%). So, if you do what you said, you will get about 2.5x more exp with your method than leveling the unit directly. I guess it is not a big deal if you have gotten enough 2* from this event.

btw, don't forget your brave points. You can use those 1*/2* you get as feeders also.

Edit: I guess you can try out different combination for 38-7 like you said. Like 2 unit 3 times or 3 units 4 times, etc.

Thanks, I'm trying out leveling 2 of them at the same time..looks the most time saving + ill get the big boost after event. Otherwise, I'll stick to the regular 17 1* to 2* combo Smile

Thanks again!
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For 3* feeder, what is the best lv?
Is it lv 10?
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Ryosuke wrote:
It is hard to define the word efficiency in term of enhancing. In term of exp efficiency, you will have to look at the total exp the cards give as feeder vs the exp the leveled card gives as a feeder.

For instance, 1* lvl 1 gives 150 exp and 2* lvl 1 gives 450 exp. A 2* lvl 4 gives 900 exp, and to make it you will need to feed 3 x 1* lvl to a 2* lvl 1. So in term of exp trade off, they are even. On the other hands, it takes 16 x 1* lvl 1 to get a 2* lvl 1 to lvl 10, and a 2* lvl 10 only gives 1800 exp. So compared to the total exp for the original 17 cards, you are actually losing 1050 exp.

So, in a sense, a 2* lvl 4 is better than a 2* lvl 10. However, there are also a couple other things to consider:
1. Cost of enhancing is related to the level of the unit you are feeding your feeders to
2. You can only hold 75 cards at most (i.e. 74 feeders max)

In other words, if you are feeding those 1*s individually, you will have to spend a lot extra luna on enhancing because you will have to feed the feeder to a leveled card multiple time instead of feeding them once only to a lvl 1 card.

It probably sound confusing... Maybe someone will have a better explanation.

nice explanation Smile thanks for this.
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asura08 wrote:
is it hard to recruit monsters? especially 5*? (if Pale will be recruitable)

5* mons are not very easy to recruit.
The formula is
(4 * SSL + 0.1 * SSS) * (1 + LEVEL/300)) = % chance of success

It either takes 25SSL or 1,000 SSS for a 99.9% chance(because it cannot be 100% for recruitment) at level 1.
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Belhyde wrote:
For 3* feeder, what is the best lv?
Is it lv 10?

it depends if you are selling them or using them and the amount of resources you have at hand.

if you are selling you will find it much easier to sell them at level 15 as it makes yours much more attractive than the level 10's

if you are using, iirc i think level 10 is the break even point, that is to say if you level it past 10, you will lose more exp than if you put all the cards directly into the one your feeding (in the encyclopedia section there is a spread sheet that will caculate all this for you). now doing that has its own downside as it can be quite luna costly to do... there are other considerations such as how many feeders you have on hand.

personally i level all my 3* to level 15-20 to use, if i have extra 1/2* i'll put my 2*'s to level 6-10. imo thats the best'ish. bringing the lv 3* to level 15'ish is really just a personal preference as they are super easy to sell and provide quite a large boost to what ever they get fed to if i need to level something quickly.
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I use it for lvling my card of course. :3
I've been using only 2* Lv 10 so far, and start to try using 3* thanks to Lilith training chest. xD
Thanks...
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I can't deploy any of my allies... even if they are actively online. Anyone know why?

Nevermind, read the other thread that answered this question.
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What is the best way to get a 6*?
And how i can get TEs fast?
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raikong4 wrote:
What is the best way to get a 6*?
And how i can get TEs fast?

best way to a 6* is power trading, same with TE's. that is having a really good understanding of the market and upcoming events, then buy low and sell high. good example is having known a month ago that we would have two heavy pot burning events and loaded up on pots when they were 1te:2pots then selling them now when they are 2te:1pots. Another example would be stocking up on 20dc units and selling them before the next BA.

Also know what events are coming up. If you had known and prepared for the 150 floor tower or multiple runs at the 120 tower you could have gotten 6* here. check out the english wiki's events page, the jp links are at the bottom for upcoming events, use google translate and just see what events have farmable 6*'s and prepare.
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Arigato! ;3
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I'm really confused.
Everyone elses ID appears to be one digit larger than mine. Is that normal?
Mine is 7 digits (1516838), but everyone elses appears to be 8.
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