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kaieitenjitsu

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Join date : 2012-09-08
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 1:40 pm

po1102 wrote:
Harpy 3* lvl 1
1 SSS
little faith
5 failures in a row =)))

Such an entertaining way to spend luna haha...

u can try 10 sss a time, i think will be easier
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po1102
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 1:44 pm

kaieitenjitsu wrote:
po1102 wrote:
Harpy 3* lvl 1
1 SSS
little faith
5 failures in a row =)))

Such an entertaining way to spend luna haha...

u can try 10 sss a time, i think will be easier

I know, just want to test my luck Smile

and it's just how I know it'd be, apparently...

Edit: 2 times with 10 SS, a bit higher chance, failed...
Ok, I'm out of luna and SS to go any further xD


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clocksprocket wrote:
Well realistically that was highest possible success chance -- having any extra may not have helped.

I wonder if using 1LSS 16x in a row may have resulted in better chances? A part of me really wishes someone would try it out.

If we knew the probabilities it would be easy to figure out. =/
Even just some estimates...




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alley1221

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:24 pm

omg, I don't have the best luck with this game but you make me want to try it, haha~! Grats!

ElysianField wrote:
ragnarok wrote:
jmrrice wrote:
ragnarok wrote:
I got my sonia 5* unit for 4 attempt of each 1ss[L]. tongue
what lvl was it?


just lvl1. Very Happy

if this keeps working it will open op a lot of paths Surprised
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Rakath

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:27 pm

I had a lot of excess Luna, so every so often I'd try to see if I could get Sonia with 1 SSS. Never worked. I did that like 20 times.

Best not to bother with such small odds. I doubt anything less than 20 SSS will be a good odds to play.
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alley1221

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:29 pm

Rakath wrote:
I had a lot of excess Luna, so every so often I'd try to see if I could get Sonia with 1 SSS. Never worked. I did that like 20 times.

Best not to bother with such small odds. I doubt anything less than 20 SSS will be a good odds to play.

Yeh, I'm saving all the SSS's I get toward the end of the recruitment and try it. Thanks~
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TK




Join date : 2012-10-06
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PostSubject: Lucky or Viable   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:33 pm

Hiya! Been going to these forums for a while but finally made an account.

So yeah, either I'm very lucky or gambling with small amounts works out.

Just for fun, first day, I tried recruiting Tulia with one small soulstone. It worked. o.o
So cool, I think maybe I'll get lucky. Try ten small on Sonia...it works. O.O
No luck with my Laura, did three tries of ten each then a couple one stone tries. I'm thinking I won't push my luck or Luna any further and just save for her.
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po1102
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:35 pm

So I gave up gambling and got Harpy converted for 64 SS...

TK wrote:
Hiya! Been going to these forums for a while but finally made an account.

So yeah, either I'm very lucky or gambling with small amounts works out.

Just for fun, first day, I tried recruiting Tulia with one small soulstone. It worked. o.o
So cool, I think maybe I'll get lucky. Try ten small on Sonia...it works. O.O
No luck with my Laura, did three tries of ten each then a couple one stone tries. I'm thinking I won't push my luck or Luna any further and just save for her.

the luck of some ppl...
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Cam
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:38 pm

Tried for the heck of it: 10SSS Tullia. Failed. =p
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:42 pm

For my Sonia, I had it leveled up to lvl 40. I used 20 sss 6 times and failed. Farmed out some more sss, tried 40 of them and success.

I'm thinking max success rate is still only around 50ish% at best, meaning might as well try low amounts repeatedly. Bound to crit once in there. Just from my experience though.

Recruited Luce with 20 sss first try, tried twice on Tullia with 20 with no luck.
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TK




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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:48 pm

Xzaral wrote:
For my Sonia, I had it leveled up to lvl 40. I used 20 sss 6 times and failed. Farmed out some more sss, tried 40 of them and success.

I'm thinking max success rate is still only around 50ish% at best, meaning might as well try low amounts repeatedly. Bound to crit once in there. Just from my experience though.

Recruited Luce with 20 sss first try, tried twice on Tullia with 20 with no luck.

Yeah I agree with you. I remember failing three max chance tried in a row during Demon Tower. I'm currently leveling feeders for my Laura, then I'll try 10 and 20.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 2:57 pm

1) which monster
Stray Cat
2) what level it was
15
3) how many SS you used
5 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have little faith your offering will be successful.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Success
No. of tries: 1

1) which monster
Mermaid
2) what level it was
16
3) how many SS you used
5 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have little faith your offering will be successful.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Success

No. of tries: 3
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jmrrice

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Join date : 2012-09-23
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 3:15 pm

lvl 35 sonia used 5ssl and 120 sss
failed =0 i guess my luck this time sucked..

my laura was lvl 19 and i used 7 ssl and 100sss it worked. (1st recruitment)

= 0 i will try doing 1ssl or 20 sss each once i restock on stones....
darn.. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 3:18 pm

Rakath wrote:
I had a lot of excess Luna, so every so often I'd try to see if I could get Sonia with 1 SSS. Never worked. I did that like 20 times.

Best not to bother with such small odds. I doubt anything less than 20 SSS will be a good odds to play.

Actually, I think that the 1 SSS recruitment strategy is optimal for players who have a lot of Luna. We know the odds of a successful recruitment is incremental, meaning that 1 SSS or 11 SSS will give you the same odds or success message from Mina for a 4*. If we are to trust other member's posts, we also know that recruitment with only 1 SSS is possible.

Without knowing the actual odds, let's assume that the lowest level of success is 3% (I am hoping it's more like 5% and not 1%). At 3%, 10 recruitment attempts in a row will yield a 26% success rate (20 attempts yield 46%, 30 attempts yield 60% and so on, it's marginally diminishing). The trade off is therefore Luna since it is 10K a recruitment.

Considering it will take 20 SSL or ~800 SSS to reach the highest success rate for a 5*, spending a million Luna (100 attempts with 95% success rate) is going to cost much less than spending precious TE to get SSL. Seeing as how SSL is going for ~3 TE and a 1 TE is going for ~75K, that's 4.5M Luna for a success rate that's somewhere between 75% and 99%.

Unless I made some egregious logical or assumption errors, spam 1 SSS recruitments if you have the Luna.
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Dark Knlght
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 3:28 pm

I've tried to do Sonia lvl 30ish with 10 SSS 8 times no dice....same when I used 4 SSL and 50 SSS.....I'm about to give up..
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ragnarok

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 3:31 pm

I tried to push my luck using ss[S] spending so much luna for my tullia. 5ss[S] at time 5x attempt and 10ss[S] 3x time attempt. Guess what? all failed. Sad

I think i'll need ss[L] just what i did to my sonia but im out of ss[L]. Sad
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po1102
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 3:43 pm

Dark Knlght wrote:
I've tried to do Sonia lvl 30ish with 10 SSS 8 times no dice....same when I used 4 SSL and 50 SSS.....I'm about to give up..

How about stop relying on luck and diligently gather ss like I did?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 4:01 pm

Lvl 19 Stay Cat
Tried 5SSS 3 times and failed.
Leveled to 21
Tried 11SSS (got "Improbable but not impossible") 3 times and on the third try succeeded!

Now I gonna try Sonia 8D ... B>SSS? @__@
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Dark Knlght
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 4:17 pm

po1102 wrote:
Dark Knlght wrote:
I've tried to do Sonia lvl 30ish with 10 SSS 8 times no dice....same when I used 4 SSL and 50 SSS.....I'm about to give up..

How about stop relying on luck and diligently gather ss like I did?

4 SSL ain't nothing to sneeze at....

When I get more I'll wait for a better quote but no ones selling them at what I can afford:P


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luck isn't on my side.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 4:48 pm

Got Sonia.

Level 30 Monster Sonia-used 20 SSS first, failed. Then said screw it and used the 4 LSS on her. Success. Mina had the "little faith" line upon recruiting.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 5:06 pm

Tried to recruit Sonia with 4SSL earlier in the game and failed.

So, after reading, I decided to take a gamble... and, you guys. Holy crap. Whoa. Shocked

TAKE 1:
1) which monster
Sonia
2) what level it was
18
3) how many SS you used
20 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have little faith your offering will be successful.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Failure
No. of tries: 2

TAKE 2:
1) which monster
Sonia
2) what level it was
18
3) how many SS you used
30 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have little faith your offering will be successful.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Failure
No. of tries: 1

TAKE 3:
1) which monster
Sonia
2) what level it was
18
3) how many SS you used
40 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have little faith your offering will be successful.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Success
No. of tries: 1

So, so happy! Very Happy Very Happy
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po1102
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 5:18 pm

Dark Knlght wrote:
po1102 wrote:
Dark Knlght wrote:
I've tried to do Sonia lvl 30ish with 10 SSS 8 times no dice....same when I used 4 SSL and 50 SSS.....I'm about to give up..

How about stop relying on luck and diligently gather ss like I did?

4 SSL ain't nothing to sneeze at....

When I get more I'll wait for a better quote but no ones selling them at what I can afford:P

I used more than 3 times as many SS, so yea I sneeze at your attempt Razz
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 5:27 pm

Oh, and I was so excited I forgot to mention Tullia. And I've just recruited Luce, as well.

TULLIA TAKE 1:
1) which monster
Tullia
2) what level it was
1
3) how many SS you used
10SS
4) what was Mina's message
I have little faith your offering will be successful.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Failure
No. of tries: 1

TULLIA TAKE 2:
1) which monster
Tullia
2) what level it was
1
3) how many SS you used
72 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have a good feeling about this.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Success
No. of tries: 1

1) which monster
Luce
2) what level it was
1
3) how many SS you used
80 SSS
4) what was Mina's message
I have a good feeling about this.
5) whether you failed or succeeded!
Success
No. of tries: 1


I'm not sure I'm remembering the messages right... I checked to see what they'd say to various amounts so often, I've seen every response umpteen times. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12] - Page 9 I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 06, 2012 6:15 pm

1st
Sonia
Lvl45
1SSS
I have little faith your offering will be accepted
Failed


2nd
Sonia
Lvl45
20SSS
I have little faith your offering will be accepted
Failed


3rd
Sonia
Lvl45
30SSS
I have little faith your offering will be accepted
Failed


Now that i think should have used more until the message changed, not more for the same.

Unless its percentage to SS not percentage to message level
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