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PostSubject: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2013 9:21 pm

I got the 3000 Moba coin box and managed to get 2 5* out of it, which I guess is not bad. Is the step-up one good?
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2013 9:27 pm

Coin for coin, Step Ups are the best option if you are spending money due to the draw chance.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2013 9:28 pm

That is a great pull! Congratulations!

Usually it's a good idea to buy boxes that give event items for an event you want to compete in. That way you aren't too disappointed when the boxes inevitably give crap.

The Step-up packs are only worth it if you are willing to buy up to step 7 (which is $120 alone to get one try at step 7). Step 7 doesn't have anything below a 4* and event 3*s, which is nice, and it has boosted 5* and 6* chances.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2013 9:31 pm

Callanthe wrote:
That is a great pull! Congratulations!

Usually it's a good idea to buy boxes that give event items for an event you want to compete in. That way you aren't too disappointed when the boxes inevitably give crap.

The Step-up packs are only worth it if you are willing to buy up to step 7 (which is $120 alone to get one try at step 7). Step 7 doesn't have anything below a 4* and event 3*s, which is nice, and it has boosted 5* and 6* chances.

All packs leading up to 7 have boosted chances to draw 5s/6s.

Step 7 just gives the most at 10x the normal rate (2-3% instead of the normal .2-.3%).

The ones below range from 2x to 7x or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2013 9:32 pm

I have only purchased one 3000 box and I managed to get one 5* out of it.
I don't want to spend any more money on the game as it will ruin the fun if
I get a 6* so quickly. I feel like earning my first 6* as I bypassed earning my
first 5*.

As for the odds, I have a few allies that spent $100 on the step-up boxes
and received nothing good at all. A shame really as it is a lot of money. Just
luck but definitely a better chance for 6* in the step-up box as a few of my
allies have recently gone from 4* to 6* in a day.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2013 11:03 pm

BkWiz wrote:
Callanthe wrote:
That is a great pull! Congratulations!

Usually it's a good idea to buy boxes that give event items for an event you want to compete in. That way you aren't too disappointed when the boxes inevitably give crap.

The Step-up packs are only worth it if you are willing to buy up to step 7 (which is $120 alone to get one try at step 7). Step 7 doesn't have anything below a 4* and event 3*s, which is nice, and it has boosted 5* and 6* chances.

All packs leading up to 7 have boosted chances to draw 5s/6s.

Step 7 just gives the most at 10x the normal rate (2-3% instead of the normal .2-.3%).

The ones below range from 2x to 7x or something like that.

Wow...I imagine the 6* draw is low, but NOT that low....I spent $20 on the step-ups already and not even a 5*... Glad to know what I'm getting into. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 25, 2013 2:08 am

Callanthe wrote:
That is a great pull! Congratulations!

Usually it's a good idea to buy boxes that give event items for an event you want to compete in. That way you aren't too disappointed when the boxes inevitably give crap.

The Step-up packs are only worth it if you are willing to buy up to step 7 (which is $120 alone to get one try at step 7). Step 7 doesn't have anything below a 4* and event 3*s, which is nice, and it has boosted 5* and 6* chances.

Thanks! I've never played the Soul Hunter one before, so I'll give it a try!
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 25, 2013 1:00 pm

Since starting, I bought 11 mega packs, and a Romance of the three kingdom pack without ever seeing higher than a 4* card. Two nights ago I tried the step up pack, and drew three 5* cards before I even got to step 7.

They don't advertise an increased chance of 5* cards with the step up packs, and I always assumed you only had better chances of drawing 6* cards with them because of that, but I definitely had much better luck of drawing a 5* with the step up.

Like Callanthe said though, I always feel like I get my money's worth if the packs come with event items. At least that way it gives you great odds at 5* reward cards.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 25, 2013 1:20 pm

deformedmagic wrote:
Callanthe wrote:
That is a great pull! Congratulations!

Usually it's a good idea to buy boxes that give event items for an event you want to compete in. That way you aren't too disappointed when the boxes inevitably give crap.

The Step-up packs are only worth it if you are willing to buy up to step 7 (which is $120 alone to get one try at step 7). Step 7 doesn't have anything below a 4* and event 3*s, which is nice, and it has boosted 5* and 6* chances.

Thanks! I've never played the Soul Hunter one before, so I'll give it a try!

Recommend all new player to avoid trying for ranking in this event lol... If you're just after the bt shard rewards though, go break a leg Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2013 4:40 am

aszutai wrote:
deformedmagic wrote:
Callanthe wrote:
That is a great pull! Congratulations!

Usually it's a good idea to buy boxes that give event items for an event you want to compete in. That way you aren't too disappointed when the boxes inevitably give crap.

The Step-up packs are only worth it if you are willing to buy up to step 7 (which is $120 alone to get one try at step 7). Step 7 doesn't have anything below a 4* and event 3*s, which is nice, and it has boosted 5* and 6* chances.

Thanks! I've never played the Soul Hunter one before, so I'll give it a try!

Recommend all new player to avoid trying for ranking in this event lol... If you're just after the bt shard rewards though, go break a leg Wink
Or in panel events, they might have a 5* such as Ivy or Norma when you get a certain amount of BT points. ( actually, it isn't really certain, ITS A LOT)
But you might have to play all day to get it though with no distractions but nonetheless, grab every opportunity to get one.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 29, 2013 11:08 am

If your aiming for a 6*, go for a Step Up Pack. I know it costs $120 ish to get to full steam, but I spent $170 and got two 6*s but zero 5*s. I got Reinhard and Nina.

Seeing that I had spent $220 before this on other mega packs and only got 2 5*s from it, I think it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 29, 2013 5:15 pm

3 6* in 4 draws of step up (7th step). Its worth it.....to me at least!
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 31, 2013 3:51 pm

StarOnyx wrote:
Or in panel events, they might have a 5* such as Ivy or Norma when you get a certain amount of BT points. ( actually, it isn't really certain, ITS A LOT)
But you might have to play all day to get it though with no distractions but nonetheless, grab every opportunity to get one.

999 ppl got Norma. Pretty sure at least 800 of those are pure grinders. It's way easier than ppl make it out to be.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 02, 2013 1:13 pm

So, I was chatting with a friend about whether it was worth it to buy packs. The consensus is that only the final stage of the Step up pack is worth it.

Some quick calculations:

Assume chance of drawing a 5* is 2%, the chance of drawing a 6* is 0.2%. Assume the average value of a 5* is 30TE, the average value of a 6* is 300TE.

Normal mega-pack (14 cards, $30):
Probability of drawing a 5* = 1 - (1 - 0.02)^14cards = 25%
Probability of drawing a 6* = 1 - (1 - 0.002)^14cards = 3%
Expected TE value = 0.25 * 30TE + 0.03 * 300TE = 16.5TE

Step Up Pack Step 7 (12 cards, $50):
Probability of drawing a 5* = 1 - (1 - 0.02)^12cards = 22%
Probability of drawing a 6* = 1 - (1 - 0.002 * 10)^12cards = 25%
Expected TE value = 0.22 * 30TE + 0.25 * 300TE = 81.6TE

Of course, things can change depending on the TE value of things. But in general, the normal packs are a terrible choice. You're almost always better just buying TE from the shop and getting the cards that you want... It's a bit more unclear for the Step up packs. Definitely a better deal, but again, you may not get the specific card you want.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 04, 2013 4:46 pm

Is it even a good idea to buy the mega boxes now for the SSL + possible 6* since the step-up was temporarily removed?
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 04, 2013 10:58 pm

kurochin wrote:
Is it even a good idea to buy the mega boxes now for the SSL + possible 6* since the step-up was temporarily removed?

Only if you are trying to recruit. But if you have a decent amount of TE, just buy it from the people selling. No need to waste you money as the chances are not as high on a mega pack.

I can attest. I pulled more in step-up 6* and 5*s than I ever did in the same amount I spent in mega packs.. then again, everyone's luck is different. So don't use my example to base your luck on... As I told off a guy on my wall who was ranting about not getting anything after $300-$400 spent.... >.> ... Yea.
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PostSubject: Re: Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on?   Any of the deal packs and boxes worth spending money on? I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 05, 2013 12:52 pm

I'm tempted to get a 100MobaCoin Premium Starter Pack, while it's on offer, and I have got 100Coins spare.

However, after coming to the forums, I have to wonder if it's a better option to buy a TE and use it trading to a Level 1 - 4* to ensure I get a good card out of it.
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