[EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]

☆ Join date : 2012-09-18 Posts : 60

Edited - removed to avoid confusion. Meteor's formula seems solid.

☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-23 Posts : 288

I'm really bad at math - can you calculate some odds for a level 30 5*, using your formula? If you have time a cross-table that calculates by monster level could be very useful. Thanks.

☆ Join date : 2012-09-18 Posts : 60

Ditto from above.

☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-23 Posts : 288

^ Thanks a lot - the rule of thumb for 10 levels = 3% is pretty helpful. That would mean that if someone actually leveled a 5* or 6* monster up all the way it should take a really low amount of stones to convert (makes sense).

War Hero [Rare] Join date : 2012-09-18 Posts : 1685

Dannupa wrote:: If this analysis is even close to right, you should be enhancing at around 45 SSS for a 4* or 370 SSS for a 5* to maximize you bang for a buck at about 2/3 conversion odds. This isn't that sensitive to specific assumptions. Basically, figure out what you think is 50-50 and go up by ~25% to get to optimal.

I've tried 2 times with 48 SSS each and once with 96 SSS on my lvl 1 mermaid. All failed Very Happy

☆ Join date : 2012-09-30 Posts : 133

Some very good info being posted in this thread. I failed my first attempt at Sonia. She was a level 1 but this time, I'm saving more stones & leveling her to increase my chances.

-LatinLegacy

☆ Join date : 2012-09-23 Posts : 4

Sonia
Lvl 40
(I think our odds for success are extremely high)
557 SSS and 4 SSL
Great success for my 1st attempt! Very Happy

Gingerbreadian [SPECIAL] Join date : 2012-09-10 Posts : 34

Dannupa wrote:: So, I don't have time to do a full table by levels right now, but a level 30 will have an 8.5% reduction in stone usage. So the percentage success will all be the same, but you'll need fewer stones to get there. More generally it will be about a 2.83% reduction per 10 levels.

To rise to level 30, it just needs about 24-27 level 4 2* to enchance( I used 26 to rise my laura to lv 31)
In case, rising level to 30 would save more sss or ssl.

☆ Join date : 2012-09-25 Posts : 23

From Success Cases of many one in this Topics
Mina will tell You "The odds of Success are extremely high" when used

Laura 5* Lv.53 used 4-SSL and 516-SSS = 676 SSS
Sonia 5* Lv.40 used 4-SSL and 557-SSS = 717 SSS
Sonia 5* Lv.54 used 6-SSL and 434-SSS = 674 SSS

It might be conclude that
5* Lv. 1 used 793 SSS
each Level of 5* will reduce SSS by approx. 2.25

Example 5* Level 10 --> Used SSS = 793 - 10 x 2.25 = 771 SSS
5* Level 20 --> Used SSS = 793 - 20 x 2.25 = 748 SSS
5* Level 30 --> Used SSS = 793 - 30 x 2.25 = 726 SSS
5* Level 40 --> Used SSS = 793 - 40 x 2.25 = 703 SSS
5* Level 50 --> Used SSS = 793 - 50 x 2.25 = 681 SSS

To reduce Cost and Time
Used 2-1* Card to Enhance 2* Card to Level 3
Used 28-2* Level 3 Card to Enhance 5* Card to Level 30
Cost I) 1* Card x 56 Cards = 1,000 x 56 = 56,000 Luna
II) 2* Card x 28 Cards = 5,000 x 28 = 140,000 Luna
III) Enhance All 2* Card to Level 3 = 450 x 56 = 25,200 Luna
IV) Enhance 5* to Level 30 = 520 x 28 = 14,560 Luna
Total I + II + III + IV = 235,760 Luna

If You Own 1* and 2* Cards (without Buying) Total Cost reduce to III + IV = 39,760 Luna

Compare to Buying SSS 5,000 Luna each x Saving 68 SSS (from Level up 5* to Level 30) = 340,000 Luna

Conclusion : Level up 5* to Level 30 is the better way to save your time (from Training)
and your Luna from (Buying SSS)

☆ Join date : 2012-10-08 Posts : 2

Hi guys,
maybe someone can help me..I`m playin this game on a Galasy S2.I began in September.But i can recruit any monsters in this event till now.I`ve over 80 SSS now.."There are no monsters you can recruit at this Time" is the massage when i go on the event..help...

SebyDC wrote:: Hi guys,
maybe someone can help me..I`m playin this game on a Galasy S2.I began in September.But i can recruit any monsters in this event till now.I`ve over 80 SSS now.."There are no monsters you can recruit at this Time" is the massage when i go on the event..help...

If you have the following monsters in your unit deck, then you're able to try recruiting them:
Demon Tower: Agnes, Charl, Dorothy, Blad
Black Dragon Castle: Luce, Benedetta, Tullia, Sonia
Other: Mermaid, Harpy, Stray Cat

And those are the ones you can easily try to get...

☆ Join date : 2012-10-08 Posts : 2

Thats nice to know...I didnt find anything about it..Thank you very much Wink

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clocksprocket wrote:

gtmeteor wrote:: 4* : SSL = 36%, SSS = ? ( 3x SSL = 100% )
5* : SSL = 4%, SSS = 0.25%~ ( 25x SSL / 400x SSS = 100%~, not exactly sure about SSS, but should be right. )
6* : SSL = 2%, SSS = ? ( 50x SSL = 100% )

Enjoy. I'm not VERY sure I remember 4* correct, but I think it is. You should get the "succes is very high" with 3x SSL.

If you send me 3,4,5,6 stars I can check the SSS chances as well. Atm out of recruitable monsters

It's not 100% though, so the numbers are skewed downwards.

I am pretty sure the chance does reach 100%.

Guest

TK wrote:

robdeezel wrote:: 2 chances to recruit sonia

#1 - lvl 1 250 sss 5 ssl - failed
#2 - lvl 16 466 sss 4 ssl - failed

starting to get frustrated any suggestions should I be using more ssl? I have been only playing for a couple of weeks and used up most of everything I had to get the second attempt....

Well, looks like the suggestion that 400 sss = 100% chance is a tad off. >_<

400 * 0.25 = 100% hmm..........

Got a 5*, gonna do some theorycrafting...

☆ Join date : 2012-09-23 Posts : 36

updating on my end,
sonia lvl 50(m)
1st attempt 20 sss failed
2nd attempt 40 sss failed
3rd attempt all out 8ssl 120sss failed

bleh i gives up Sad

sonia dont like me..
but ive recruit laura my 1st try with 7ssl and 100 sss.
bummer.. oh well sonia will just be my D monster forrevaaa!!! Sad

☆ Join date : 2012-09-23 Posts : 36

jmrrice wrote:: updating on my end,
sonia lvl 50(m)
1st attempt 20 sss failed
2nd attempt 40 sss failed
3rd attempt all out 8ssl 120sss failed

bleh i gives up sonia dont like me..
but ive recruit laura my 1st try with 7ssl and 100 sss. (from what i remembered)
bummer.. oh well sonia will just be my D monster forrevaaa!!!

ive had a total of 6 tries
1st time was lvl 25 sonia
1st 20 sss failed
2nd 40 sss failed
all out was 5ssl and 100sss failed

dang my luck really sucked no one can beat me :'(

Guest

gtmeteor wrote:

TK wrote:

robdeezel wrote:: 2 chances to recruit sonia

#1 - lvl 1 250 sss 5 ssl - failed
#2 - lvl 16 466 sss 4 ssl - failed

starting to get frustrated any suggestions should I be using more ssl? I have been only playing for a couple of weeks and used up most of everything I had to get the second attempt....

Well, looks like the suggestion that 400 sss = 100% chance is a tad off. >_<

400 * 0.25 = 100% hmm..........

Got a 5*, gonna do some theorycrafting...

Hmm post got lost...

Ok. So apparently I was wrong... :/
For a LEVEL 1 5* - SSL = 4%, SSS = 0.1% chance.

Level is indeed a factor, however I don't have feeders atm to test it :/ But it seems that Level 40 5* has it's chance multiplied with somewhat x1.1-1.15. Maybe it's based on EXPERIENCE. Because the numbers get quite weird... :/

Guest

Level 40 shows a x1.14-1.15 multiplier...
Level 55 shows a x1.19-1.20 multiplier...
Level 66 shows a x1.21-1.22 multiplier...

Lvl 30 Sonia

4 SSL + 483 SSS = "I have a good feeling about this."

Gawd I don't know should I stop and just convert her now, I'm a nervous wreck in the potential to losing all my efforting in getting those SSS!

Guest

Whenesday wrote:: Lvl 30 Sonia

4 SSL + 483 SSS = "I have a good feeling about this."

Gawd I don't know should I stop and just convert her now, I'm a nervous wreck in the potential to losing all my efforting in getting those SSS!

4*4+483*0.1 = 16+48 = 64% Its a bit more than 64% chance... Since im not counting level multiplier.

gtmeteor wrote:: 4*4+483*0.1 = 16+48 = 64% Its a bit more than 64% chance... Since im not counting level multiplier.

That sounds like I still have ways to go in getting more SSS and leveling Sonia up even more!

☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-23 Posts : 288

^ Those would be good enough odds for me.

If that were me, the game would suddenly just shave off 30% chance and leave me with 30% left. For sure.

I'm currently saving up SSS. 760 for a level 35 Laura right now.

e: actually I went and checked, and that brings up odds of success to "extremely high." Yeah right, Mina.

I guess the question is, should I try that? Should I split it? Should I get 1000SSS and lose all those too? Who knows!

Guest

clocksprocket wrote:: If that were me, the game would suddenly just shave off 30% chance and leave me with 30% left. For sure.

I'm currently saving up SSS. 760 for a level 35 Laura right now.

e: actually I went and checked, and that brings up odds of success to "extremely high." Yeah right, Mina.

I guess the question is, should I try that? Should I split it? Should I get 1000SSS and lose all those too? Who knows!

You wont lose 1000SSS Smile

film your recruit, and if you lose, ill pay you 200 TE. Smile

Im in need of a 6*, and feeders... Very Happy

War Hero [Rare] Join date : 2012-09-18 Posts : 1685

clocksprocket wrote:: If that were me, the game would suddenly just shave off 30% chance and leave me with 30% left. For sure.

I'm currently saving up SSS. 760 for a level 35 Laura right now.

e: actually I went and checked, and that brings up odds of success to "extremely high." Yeah right, Mina.

I guess the question is, should I try that? Should I split it? Should I get 1000SSS and lose all those too? Who knows!

Well I think whatever you do, if you're lucky you'll get it, if not you forever won't. Failing multiple times with 50/50 or failing once with 99.99999% are not much different in that sense.

Still trying with that mermaid... Sad

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