Speed Order more damage when attacking base?

So I noticed my friend that has lower units and less attack per unit somehow does more damage than me when attacking the base.

Both were in the middle position
Unit speed wise, about the same.
same number of speeds ( both have X number B, both have same number of B etc)

I have about 20k more atk, but do less damage.


My friend's units are lower level, but 3 of the units have Speed Order, while I have only have 1 speed order unit.


Does speed order give more hits? Just more damage? I dont get why I am doing less damage.

bobhole wrote:

So I noticed my friend that has lower units and less attack per unit somehow does more damage than me when attacking the base.

Both were in the middle position
Unit speed wise, about the same.
same number of speeds ( both have X number B, both have same number of B etc)

I have about 20k more atk, but do less damage.


My friend's units are lower level, but 3 of the units have Speed Order, while I have only have 1 speed order unit.


Does speed order give more hits? Just more damage? I dont get why I am doing less damage.

does he use event units?

Using 4 6* and 1 4* unit i hit for 48k points, using 5 6* i hit for 34k points.

Sounds like they are using a event unit, look in RULES for the ones that give boosts.

yeah I confirm no event units.

even more odd, i have another friend that setup the same exact units with the same levels, same location and yet i still do less damage...

i guess ill check the skills, i was pretty sure i maxed most all of them.

ugh, I checked with my friend and I have higher skills as well.

I really don't get why I am doing less damage...

Anyone have any suggestions?

pretty much our attack team have the same grace/fallu (yet mine are higher even)

friend's
fiato SPD D 5* 39000 (speed order)
antony SPD C 4* 37000 (speed order)
Purif B SPD 4* 23000 (speed order)

vs
mine
Brigitte SPD D 5* 40000 (speed order)
Ruse C SPD 5* 40000
white tiger B 5* 36000

i have have 20k more atk, but do about 800 GP less when attack the unguarded base.

I read before that deploy cost effects defense and hp. Does deploy cost also effect damage?

each unit deliver different damage output.

in general, higher DC grant the unit more damage output and hp. we have some exception too, such as Reinmund has huge hp but deliver little damage.

someone also mentioned on bonus GP from event unit too.

another you might miss out: the deploy position. Attack position get bonus 10% damage output; more damage = more GP per attack.

Is your friend a rook? If he is then I won't surprise.

Although I can't really proved it but I always have an observation during all my GW experience that rook was somehow got kind of bonus in term of attacking and defending. I was always like 'no way he can hit that hard' everytime I saw a rook in my guild attacking a castle with no event unit.

And since it was brought into discussion, please, any veteran rook should be able to confirm about that

Lucky rooks. No wonder some of the pros don't mind being the rooks themselves now...

well, im playing as a rook this event and from front line with an event 5* Vera, benedicta, Flores, Quid and Nanaca i gather about 51k from attacking the base, no idea if thats higher than normal or not