[EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]

☆☆ Join date : 2012-10-02 Posts : 184

debacle?

on another note, what is the appeal of gremory? she seems like the worst of the 5* prizes but its a higher rank reward. id rather stay between 100-200 to get Aleister than burn more TEs for gremory.

☆☆☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-26 Posts : 743

clocksprocket wrote:: I've literally gone 12 fights without a single boss (I've been writing them down, so I'm not just saying bullshit). Large vials don't increase your chance of hitting one, but it does give you double the BT points.

I've had a theory that it doesn't let you attack players who are using a vial, but I can't test that, and it doesn't seem to be always true. Not sure why it sometimes doesn't let you attack people then.

It's normal for me to encounter boss fights about 1 in every 10 battles.
My first Boss took 15 hours which was probably around 50 fights,
but then after that I started to get em more frequently...
So I'd say 1/12 isn't bad, unless we both have bad luck. =p

Stat-wise, she sucks. She's pretty hot, though, and some people value that over card stats. Plus, it's not like we decided what the rewards are -- Silicon did.

I think it's more competitive simply because there are more people playing now, and people also had a few days to buy & level princess units.

☆☆ Join date : 2012-10-02 Posts : 184

good point. i do like her art more. but i only have 2 5* and aleister looks like she would be a better addition. also, ally?

I'm full-up on allies, but maybe someone here can ally you. I see you as an option to fight all the time but I haven't tried yet. :p

☆☆ Join date : 2012-10-02 Posts : 184

thought i'd ask :/ likewise. but im pretty sure youd win.

☆☆☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-29 Posts : 592

j0k3r3r wrote:: debacle?

on another note, what is the appeal of gremory? she seems like the worst of the 5* prizes but its a higher rank reward. id rather stay between 100-200 to get Aleister than burn more TEs for gremory.

I'm assuming that she's actually faster than the other two even if the attack speed is listed under the same letter. I don't think I've ever seen them put a crappier card as a higher rank as of yet.

Blargod wrote:

j0k3r3r wrote:: debacle?

on another note, what is the appeal of gremory? she seems like the worst of the 5* prizes but its a higher rank reward. id rather stay between 100-200 to get Aleister than burn more TEs for gremory.

I'm assuming that she's actually faster than the other two even if the attack speed is listed under the same letter. I don't think I've ever seen them put a crappier card as a higher rank as of yet.

Elena is better than her, imo.. ->__>-;

And she's very close to Fiona stat-wise, cept for her massive air attack..

I think she's somethin nice to look at but not to keep in your deck.

☆ Join date : 2012-10-01 Posts : 106

Lots of people mention last minute rushing to get into the top 200, but is there any benefit at all for leaving it until the last day?

And how many people could I expect to push hard on sunday? If I'm at 150 will I stay in the top 200 through the push?

☆☆☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-29 Posts : 592

Avyel wrote:

Blargod wrote:

j0k3r3r wrote:: debacle?

on another note, what is the appeal of gremory? she seems like the worst of the 5* prizes but its a higher rank reward. id rather stay between 100-200 to get Aleister than burn more TEs for gremory.

I'm assuming that she's actually faster than the other two even if the attack speed is listed under the same letter. I don't think I've ever seen them put a crappier card as a higher rank as of yet.

Elena is better than her, imo.. ->__>-;

And she's very close to Fiona stat-wise, cept for her massive air attack..

I think she's somethin nice to look at but not to keep in your deck.

I agree with you, it's just that it's hard to determine the value of mages since the game lists all of their attack speeds as D. At best she's probably equal to the other two.

I guess all I'm trying to say is that it really depends on how fast she attacks and how fast the other two attack. It's like how Caecelia actually has an attack delay of .4, while Plautia has an attack delay of .6 and Erhard is 0.55. I tested these on the Colosseum, attack turn order follows based on the shortness of the attack delay.

@ WMidge

If you probably stay awake until the maintenance you probably wouldn't have to worry about TE spamming. Ah, then again, people are obtaining TE this time around...

I don't know, but last event I was dropping ranks every minute -- in the end I jumped like 50 when I beat the black dragon, though.

Here you definitely will drop ranks as well, especially as people put L brews on and spam elixirs and get bosses.

☆ Join date : 2012-09-18 Posts : 60

So, I missed a day and fell far in this one. Don't think I'll have any chance of moving into a place from my 500 spot. I may try spamming my personal TE with a large vial, it should at least convert a bunch of them to real TE.

The 3TE per 3K BT must be making this one crazy. The people it top spots have received 1800TE from rewards, I'd guess you must make back about 1/2 of what you spend spamming a large vial's worth of time.

Also my guess on not being able to fight is that the person moved out of your "attack range" for ranking, but that's just a guess not sure why you'd still find them on your list.

War Hero [Rare] Join date : 2012-10-10 Posts : 89

tsunonlau wrote:: May I ask those who've been working hard, what position are you guys trying to get to..? Honestly, hanging at 500-200 is pretty though already, you must at least you some TE / L Vial to keep the rank move forward

I'm at 56 and, yea it's tough I'm not sure if I'm going to get into the top 50. It seems that all of a sudden a lot of players were pushing for the top 50 spots. I was sitting at 38 on day two and had only used 10 TE and hadn't figured out the RocL boost. Now I have to TE it up just to maintain. Where did all these "contenders" come from?

☆☆ Join date : 2012-10-02 Posts : 184

Blargod wrote:: @ WMidge

If you probably stay awake until the maintenance you probably wouldn't have to worry about TE spamming. Ah, then again, people are obtaining TE this time around...

very true. but i know alot of people that are saving them for the future or for trading becuase they know its futile this event.

☆ Join date : 2012-09-22 Posts : 146

The popularity for Gremory may also stem from the fact that she's the current cover card (as in the App cover). I believe she's the first of the US cover cards which have actually been attainable?
I'm all for great stats, and I'm not all too sure why I'm trying so hard for her, I just really like her. Plus the enhancing fruits will boost her max level, though she may not be the prime choice for using such a rare item, so her stats do have room to improve.

I'm currently ranked 89 on PVP, I've been working my butt off all week. Only sleeping five hours a night, not to mention I've got my ACT this Saturday. I'm sure I can put that I (hopefully) ranked top 100 on an event on my college resumes though ahahah(;

☆☆ Join date : 2012-10-14 Posts : 153

Cam wrote:

clocksprocket wrote:: I've literally gone 12 fights without a single boss (I've been writing them down, so I'm not just saying bullshit). Large vials don't increase your chance of hitting one, but it does give you double the BT points.

I've had a theory that it doesn't let you attack players who are using a vial, but I can't test that, and it doesn't seem to be always true. Not sure why it sometimes doesn't let you attack people then.

It's normal for me to encounter boss fights about 1 in every 10 battles.
My first Boss took 15 hours which was probably around 50 fights,
but then after that I started to get em more frequently...
So I'd say 1/12 isn't bad, unless we both have bad luck. =p

i think its just random. cuz i got boss twice and after 15-20 battle i got boss 3 time in row
so i am guessing its random luck lol

☆ Join date : 2012-10-23 Posts : 17

Akisu wrote:

Cam wrote:

clocksprocket wrote:: I've literally gone 12 fights without a single boss (I've been writing them down, so I'm not just saying bullshit). Large vials don't increase your chance of hitting one, but it does give you double the BT points.

I've had a theory that it doesn't let you attack players who are using a vial, but I can't test that, and it doesn't seem to be always true. Not sure why it sometimes doesn't let you attack people then.

It's normal for me to encounter boss fights about 1 in every 10 battles.
My first Boss took 15 hours which was probably around 50 fights,
but then after that I started to get em more frequently...
So I'd say 1/12 isn't bad, unless we both have bad luck. =p

i think its just random. cuz i got boss twice and after 15-20 battle i got boss 3 time in row
so i am guessing its random luck lol

Yeah, I have to agree. Since I started ACT VI, I've compiled data on every floor starting from floor 1 all the way to the 260th floor. I stopped writing down what I've fought, since there hasn't been any regular patterns. The only pattern I was able to see was every 5-9 fights I'd encounter a boss for the first like 100 floors. I was actually lucky two nights ago when I used a Large Roc vial and fought 6 bosses in a row (too bad one wasn't Gregorios, since I believe he gives the most BT). Since then though the patterns I've seen have been completely random.

I'm currently ranked 107th in pve and 243rd in pvp. My pve has been dropping slowly.. I'm hoping to keep it below 200 by the end of the event, but I'm not so sure if that'll be possible if there is going to be a rush of people using TEs and large roc vials on the last day. PVP is scary as I'm pinned against plenty of difficult teams. I've actually seen quite a few allies on my list such as Dnonamus and Sientara (which both whooped my butt... It was pretty funny though as they both summoned my own Leader against me haha).

☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-13 Posts : 214

Another thing about Gremory is she's actually going to be the most common of the 5* reward units since she's a prize in both brackets. Total of ~160 of her and ~135 of the other two will be awarded. Not a huge difference, but I'll definitely be pushing for either top 50 (pretty much outside the realm of possibility) or 100-200, because I'd much rather have Sitri/Aleister. Long way to go yet...

☆☆ Join date : 2012-10-02 Posts : 184

^you just made the best point about the number of gremories

Except that there are 190 Gremories and 120 Aleister/Sitra.

Math. Wink

☆☆☆☆ Join date : 2012-09-29 Posts : 592

Can anyone test to see in which turn order does Sitra, Aleister and Gremory go on when they fight the angel boss? That should give us a rough estimate to see who is the fastest and would allow us to determine their values relative to one another.

*Manage to find out that the turn order for these three is Aleister>Gremory>Sitra. I guess Sitra really isn't too surprising since he's AOE although I was kind of expecting Gremory to be faster. It's really a pity that Aleister has slow as a skill.

Ok, I just used another Large Roc, and lo and behold, faced off a Georgios. Won the fight, got 6k BT. Was ranked about 570 just now, and now I'm ranked 404 in PvE.

Clicky!

Really, I do believe quaffing Large Rocs increases the chances of meeting a boss.

☆ Join date : 2012-09-18 Posts : 60

Yeah, I'm with the increased chance thing. I got 6 bosses in 27 fights with a Large Roc on. Bumped me up to ~200 spots and earned 15 TE for the 27 TE(p) spent.

Anyone have the BT for spot 200 right now?

I did a large vial run and the highest boss I ran into gave me 1800BT points. Ah well. Razz

Figured I did test this out as well. 10 fights and 9 TE(p) later, 1 boss encounter (4.5k points) and got 6 TE out of it. Bumped up 200 rank as well, not bad; though I'm out of TE(p) to burn now so I'll just stop here Razz

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