| How does Guild attack power work? | |
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seanlink ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-08-07 Posts : 500
| Subject: How does Guild attack power work? Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:36 pm | |
| So I noticed a big difference between the attack values of my Lucrezia and Clarissa in the Guild Battle. Lucrezia has 7,000 more Guild power than Clarissa, but looking at their values normally Clarissa has much more power than Lucrezia. Why is this? I thought to determine Guild attack power they just averaged their land, air and sea values or something. Below are the values for my 2 units. Only thing I can think is that their actual level influences power too.
5* Lucrezia Lv92 Normal Attack Powers Land: 30,701 Air: 21,629 Sea: 30,701 Guild Attack Power: 42,367
6* Clarissa Lv74 Land: 36,116 Air: 41,256 Sea: 44,660 Guild Attack Power: 35,095
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matakaw ☆☆
Join date : 2013-09-16 Posts : 281
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:34 pm | |
| Try to Max leveled or level broke both of them and see the difference. Lucrezia is 92 and Clarissa is only 74, maybe the level cap between these 2 are considered the cause of having that kind of attack power. Imagine Clarissa is 92 also or Lucrezia is 74, maybe the result are different. Clarissa can be level broken to 140 and Lucrezia has been grown up to 120 because she is only 5*. It is not yet finalized Sean, just keep questing and leveling her both. | |
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AzakaZero ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-07-12 Posts : 707
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:22 am | |
| http://www.fantasicaunofficial.com/t4770-arena-damage-formula | |
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Kanata67 ☆☆
Join date : 2013-08-20 Posts : 181
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:53 am | |
| Lvls make huge difference. Lev # 1 MLB 120 had 10,000 more arena power than lev #2 MLB lvl 103. Still had over a 5,000 difference with lev 2 at lvl 110. My lvl 85 nail has over 20,000 less. | |
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seanlink ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-08-07 Posts : 500
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:56 am | |
| I don't think that formula applies to Guild Battle. I used it and it didn't work out to what the attack power says.
Also my main point of the question I asked before was, if Lucrezia's normal attack values are lower than Clarissa's, why is Lucrezia's Guild attack values higher than Clarissa's? Is actual level a factor in influencing Guild attack value? | |
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TheRain7 ☆
Join date : 2013-06-14 Posts : 79
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:21 am | |
| AzakaZero's link is the Colosseum damage formula (i don't know why the thread name still hasn't been changed 'cause it's confusing as ****)
This is the one you're looking for: Battle Arena Damage Formula
look at especially the last part of the formula..
... *level/100
Clarissa being level 74 means it's being dropped to 74% While Lucrezia is going to 94%
That's where the difference is being made... Level breaking makes a big difference in this kind of event @-@ | |
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ChaosCleff ☆☆
Join date : 2013-07-31 Posts : 285
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:36 am | |
| - seanlink wrote:
- I don't think that formula applies to Guild Battle. I used it and it didn't work out to what the attack power says.
Also my main point of the question I asked before was, if Lucrezia's normal attack values are lower than Clarissa's, why is Lucrezia's Guild attack values higher than Clarissa's? Is actual level a factor in influencing Guild attack value? Azaka quoted the wrong link. This is the correct one: http://www.fantasicaunofficial.com/t5579-battle-arena-damage-formula You'll note from the formula that 1) level does indeed play a factor, and 2) units of higher rarity have a lower damage multiplier. - Details:
Let's take a closer look: 6* Battle Arena Damage = 0.46 * ( HIGH BASE DMG + MID BASE DMG ) * LEVEL / 100 5* Battle Arena Damage = 0.625 * ( HIGH BASE DMG + MID BASE DMG ) * LEVEL / 100
Assuming we have a MLB 5*, the damage formula simplifies to 5* Battle Arena Damage = 0.75 * ( HIGH BASE DMG + MID BASE DMG ) So we have a damage factor of 0.75.
Now, if we try to work back what level we need for a 6* to have the same multiplier, we get LEVEL = 163. So an MLB 6* will have a lower damage factor than an MLB 5*.
6*s however, still do more damage simply because they have (i) better stat growth, and (ii) more levels to grow their attack power.
For your example involving Lucrezia and Clarissa, your Clarissa is probably still at such a low level such that the damage factor is much lower than that for Lucrezia's.
Edit: Sniped by TheRain7 XD | |
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seanlink ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-08-07 Posts : 500
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:10 pm | |
| Thanks those formulas did check out (once i added the 120% for front row). | |
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seanlink ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-08-07 Posts : 500
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:11 pm | |
| Because of the penalty higher rarity cards get it would seem if i'm still leveling that i should level the 5* cards to their max first, then the 6* cards.
Well provided that the cards had similar stats at the same levels. | |
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seanlink ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-08-07 Posts : 500
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:17 pm | |
| Apparently also good for these battles to have units that have one attack value crappy and another amazing since it only takes highest 2 into account. | |
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AzakaZero ☆☆☆☆
Join date : 2013-07-12 Posts : 707
| Subject: Re: How does Guild attack power work? Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:15 pm | |
| - TheRain7 wrote:
- AzakaZero's link is the Colosseum damage formula (i don't know why the thread name still hasn't been changed 'cause it's confusing as ****)
Sorry I just did a quick search+copy+paste since I knew the info was somewhere on forums. Agree on the confusing part, yeah. | |
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